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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jun 23, 2010 5:19:30 GMT -5
"E CO, 2 BN, 506TH "Currahee"
Well I am sure it was a know brainer that I would do a Para-group as my first.
But I would like to explain as to why I chose them. First off Band of brothers is one of my alltime fav's as well as Saving private ryan. But easy company roots start here in Ga as a Paratrooper unit.
I was a 95BP series, Back in the 99 for veterans day 121sts LRSU and some other members of the GA ANG and GA DOD did they same hump as easy company did to Atlanta.
But any how here is my list to start.
CO HQ HQ + 30 2IC+15 1/baz team 65
PLT Com smg 2Teams per SQ/2SQ 200
WPLT
Para MG PLT 1MG section 1/baz 125
Mortar PLT 2teams per section 1/baz 95
SPLT
Guards armor PLT 2shermans/1firefly Add .50 cal to one+5
290
Guards recce patrol 3 stuart VI Add AA +5 170
Guards Rifle PLT Add 3t lorry +5 150
Armor car 125
ABN AT PLT 1gun per section 4/jeeps +5 90
ABN AA PLT 95
Air observation post 25
Para field arty bat 1 guns per sec 80
Para field arty bat 1 guns per sec 80
Para field arty bat 1 guns per sec 80
Para field arty bat 1 guns per sec 80
Total: 1750
So tell me what ya'll think!
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Post by Tiger505 on Jun 23, 2010 18:54:06 GMT -5
The stuarts and armoured cars are not going to be that useful. The one think your list excells at is defending ground its weakness is on the attack where enemy armor can cut you up. As it stands you have 1 good AT weapon but its on a sherman hull so it wont last once the shooting starts. I am also having a bit of a problem reading how you wrote it all down. Am i seeing a 4 gun para at battery or 4 seperate units with 1 gun each?
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jun 23, 2010 19:06:13 GMT -5
Yea those are seprate units, Quick question. Do I not have to chose 1 support from each block? Yea I wrote it out with the points next to it eaiser wfor in calculating it up.
As for AT I have a PLT size element of AT's there ABN!!
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jun 24, 2010 10:37:59 GMT -5
After going back re-reading somethings I think I got mixed up with somethings.
as for the arty sections I added some support from the 82nd that I should not have. Do I have to use support from every block on page 42 of HH for 101st?
If I had my way with this I would just use ground pounders and sherman's and fireflys. But since I have to use support from every block that sucks ass!! or do I is the question??
2nd Question
Does a command carbine have the same range as a regular carbine team?
meaning, the range of both are 8" but if I make it a Ccarbine team does it have anymore range?
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jun 24, 2010 12:04:54 GMT -5
update on list
Company HQ
Company HQ 3/BAZ teams 90
PLT
1PLT -3SQ with an extra team per squad 345
2PLT – 3SQ with an extra team per squad 345
3PLT – 3SQ with an extra team per squad 345
Mortar 2/sec with 2/baz teams 175
Company Support
1PLT
2/ Sherman and 1firefly VC with one AA MG mounted 290
1PLT
Para field arty bat 2/sections 135
AOP
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Post by Tiger505 on Jun 26, 2010 12:50:59 GMT -5
Well no you do not have to take a support choice from every block the only blocks that must be filled are the 2 or 3 combat platoons and the company hq for your list everything else is entirely optional.
The 3 tank platoon has an issue due to the moral rules. You lose two of these tanks and the 3rd one starts to roll the dice. Your even weaker in at in this list than the other. The Para AT platoon you had works fine for light work Half Tracks, Armored Cars, PZ IVs but this is not going to be the majority of the units you run into.
Most small elite type armys focus on two units of their infantry then pack in their support. The hardest thing for most people with a military or history background is to change the real tactics into their game tactics. It took all of us a while to figure out there are two ways to play. Pure history or Pure game. There is a ballance point between them that it takes a while to find. You can win with history but it takes game tactics and ToEs to do it.
I would try to find a way to get 4 fireflys into the list personaly to make sure I could handle Russian and German heavy armor. Arty for you is going to serve 2 purposes, Smoke and Pin. A single battery is not really a tool to kill with. Paratroopers excel at two things, assaulting infantry and holding ground.
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jun 26, 2010 19:11:35 GMT -5
Roger that, and thanks for the advice. I am going to play around with the list somemore. I have actually thought about doing two differnt armies para and irish guards. I have actually thought about going just para's with a ABN ENG team.
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jul 7, 2010 6:17:09 GMT -5
Company HQ 3/BAZ teams 90
Add GEN taylor 35
PLT
1PLT -3SQ with an extra team per squad 345
2PLT – 3SQ with an extra team per squad 345
Mortar 2/sec with 2/baz teams 175
Company Support
1PLT
2/ Sherman and 1firefly VC with one AA MG mounted 290
1PLT ABN ENG PLT/with two operating Squads/ 3-BAZ teams/and a supply cart 300
1PLT
Para field arty bat 2/sections 135
AOP 25
Well this is it, my finial list 1740
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Post by Tiger505 on Jul 7, 2010 15:15:32 GMT -5
Better just be aware you suffer the same basic weakness against armor of any airborne force. Play it about a dozen times then go back and fix what you dont like. I am still nervous about how weak you are in tube asset AT. There will be times those 105s get used as AT guns I bet.
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Post by scoutsout on Jul 7, 2010 18:12:20 GMT -5
Hey...are you gonna be there on Sunday? I thought you were coming out two weeks ago and then ya didn't show....I'll bring my Germans and you can take it out for a test drive this Sunday if you want.
David
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jul 8, 2010 4:33:11 GMT -5
Well yea that was the plan. I had to go to Texas for a week. I went out to thunder ranch for a week for a class. I leave again in couple of more weeks for work. Yea I plan on coming this week. But I am nowhere near ready to play I am still painting and basing. I plan on watching a few games first.
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Post by scoutsout on Jul 8, 2010 22:34:04 GMT -5
Well get em based....they don't have to be painted to play...and we'll go at it..
David
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Post by xxcowboy6xx on Jul 9, 2010 4:24:22 GMT -5
Roger that, It takes time. I paint each figure before I base as well as do lanscape.
I have been looking at some TO&E's from the 101st and I am doing 101st at Son. My list is some what there. I am dropping the morters section and picking up the Lmg PLt. I have enough morters for smoke.
Still got to pick up tanks.
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