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Post by mcginn on Jan 26, 2009 0:00:59 GMT -5
So this list was suggested
Company HQ
Gep Panzergrenadier Platoon
3x squads
Gep Panzergrenadier Platoon
3x squads
Rocket Launcher Battery
1x section
Armored Car Patrol
3x Pumas
Tank-Hunter Platoon
4x Jagdpanzer
Radio-Controlled Tank Platoon
1x Koenigstiger
Now, the problem with the list here is that I can only have 1 Schwere SS Tiger platoon, 1 Radio Controlled Section 1 Tank-Hunter Platoon, 1 Panzer Platoon or 1 Anti-tank gun Platoon. So I have to nix either four Jagdpanzers or the Koenigstiger, any suggestions on what to take out and what to replace it with?
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 26, 2009 4:24:09 GMT -5
At 14 is the minimum you want but you lose platoon count going that route.
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Post by mcginn on Jan 26, 2009 11:34:39 GMT -5
How about dropping the command fausts and dropping the asrmored car patrol to two and adding a pioneer platoon? My only worry is that I cant afford a supply maultier for them.
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 26, 2009 19:03:07 GMT -5
Another draw back to panthers is your down to 1 mobil armored element. The KT/JP4s give you two mobil AT assests instead of one. Panthers cant be everywhere.
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 26, 2009 22:58:09 GMT -5
With a 40 inch range and FA 14 not many things make it want to move. It is there when you need to remove those pesky Soviet and British heavy tanks.
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 27, 2009 4:32:03 GMT -5
With a 40 inch range all it needs is a line of sight to where you plan to fight. Trust me you want some sort of plan to handle heavy armor. That means you need AT 14+, 15cm arty, or pionners in mass.
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Post by mcginn on Jan 27, 2009 14:19:40 GMT -5
Quote Tiger505
"The KT/JP4s give you two mobil AT assests instead of one. Panthers cant be everywhere. "
Guys, thats my problem here, I cant have both of them, I'm only allowed one mobile armor asset in the Panzer Lehr list. All forms of armor, tank hunters, panzer platoons, tiger platoons and so forth are all in one 0 to 1 selection in the Lehr support platoons list. I can only have one king tiger, or 4 jagdpanzers or one whatever.
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 27, 2009 17:22:28 GMT -5
hmm Panthers it is then... The other route is to ignore armor and take more infantry and do it the assaulty burney way or Hummels. Assaulty makes me nervous because your going to fail the attempt half the time and arty takes time.
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Post by mcginn on Jan 27, 2009 18:47:18 GMT -5
yeah, I was pretty surprised that the list was so limiting on armored elements especially when considering what the Panzer Lehr was, from what I've read anyway. I think I am just gonna go sturmkompanie or grenadierkompanie since a couple friends want to do eastern front and also that I own most of the models I need for it. Just to cut my teeth on the system so I can get a more definite idea of what to do, which is ironically Warren's first suggestion anyway.
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Post by Tiger505 on Jan 28, 2009 22:41:46 GMT -5
Lehr was an armored division ?? Its Panzergrenadier battalions where the showcase due to being entirely mounted in SPWs.
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Post by mcginn on Jan 29, 2009 16:05:02 GMT -5
Just saw it listed as a panzer division once, could be wrong. -edit- Here is a neat link for my current flames of war drug of choice. -edit 2- Posting the link is quite the requirement for people being able to see it. www.panzer-lehr.co.uk/history.htm |
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Post by scoutsout on Jan 29, 2009 19:13:24 GMT -5
Lehr is in fact the 130th PANZER division....
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Post by mcginn on Feb 4, 2009 18:57:01 GMT -5
Still working on panzergrenadier Lehr, but I've been thinking of this list:
2 Panzer IV
4 Panther A
5 Panzer IV
2 Pumas
3 Sd Kfz 7/2 (3.7 cm) armored
Only 4 platoons, but a tough center I think. Going for larger platoons instead of more platoons, scouts and some air cover included. Thoughts?
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Post by Tiger505 on Feb 4, 2009 20:26:13 GMT -5
Thats 4 Platoons and infantry will give you problems lol=)
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Post by mcginn on Feb 5, 2009 0:10:41 GMT -5
okay how about this then, its a grenadierkompanie:
HQ 1ic 2ic
Grenadier Platoon 3x grenadier squads
Grenadier Platoon 3x grenadier squads
Grenadier Platoon 3x grenadier squads
Rocket launcher battery 1x section
Anti-tank gun platoon 4x sections
Assault gun platoon 2x stug IV
Heavy Tank platoon 2x Tiger IE
I could get rid of the stugs and a section of the antitank gun platoon for a full squad of pioneers with a supply wagon and a goliath (the pioneer squad can come and go but the exploding go-kart stays with them) These are all placeholder ideas while I work on the not too cheap Panzer Lehr force, thats why I'm posting so many list ideas.
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